The basics
How groundhoppers count their grounds
Most groundhoppers count a stadium once they have watched a competitive match there in person, from inside the ground. Everything beyond that baseline — friendlies, stadium tours, rebuilt venues, temporary homes — is decided by personal rules, which is why serious hoppers write their rules down and apply them consistently.
There is no authority that certifies a groundhopping list. No federation, no ratified rulebook, no appeals process. What exists instead is a widely shared baseline plus a set of genuinely contested edge cases — and the only thing that makes a list credible is that its owner treats those edge cases the same way every time.
The baseline almost everyone agrees on
A ground counts when all four of these are true:
- You were physically inside the stadium.
- A match was played.
- You watched it.
- It was a competitive fixture — a league game, a cup tie, a play-off.
That is the floor. Nobody seriously disputes a ground done this way. The arguments start immediately afterwards.
The five edge cases you have to rule on
1. Friendlies and pre-season
The strict position is that only competitive football counts, on the grounds that a pre-season friendly at half capacity is not really the ground as it exists. The permissive position is that you were there, a match happened, the number goes up.
Most people land somewhere in the middle: friendlies count, but they are marked as such, so the list stays honest about what kind of visit it was.
2. Stadium tours and empty grounds
The near-universal position here is that a tour does not count. You have seen the stadium; you have not seen the ground. The atmosphere, the crowd and the match are the thing being collected, and a tour has none of them.
This is the one edge case where the community is close to unanimous, which is worth knowing before you add twelve famous stadiums to your total on the strength of an afternoon with a guide.
3. Rebuilt and renamed grounds
Naming rights change constantly and mean nothing: a renamed stadium is the same ground, and counting it twice is not defensible. Rebuilding is harder. A new stand on an old ground is clearly still the old ground. A complete demolition and reconstruction on the same site is genuinely arguable. A move to a new site is unambiguously a new ground.
4. Temporary and shared homes
Clubs groundshare, and clubs move out during construction. This is straightforward if you remember that you are counting grounds and not clubs: you count the stadium you were in, once, regardless of which club was hosting. Watching two different clubs at the same shared stadium is one ground, not two.
5. Abandoned matches
A match called off before kick-off is not a ground — you were in the stadium, but there was no football. A match abandoned after kick-off divides opinion. The common resolution is that it counts if meaningful football was played before it stopped, and that a match abandoned in the opening minutes does not.
What to record for each ground
Whatever your rules, the entry is worth more than the number. Years later the number tells you nothing and the details tell you everything.
- The date, the two clubs and the competition.
- The final score.
- Which stand or section you were in — this is the detail people forget first and miss most.
- Whether it was competitive or a friendly, so your rules stay auditable.
- Anything that made it that specific day rather than any other.
Writing your rules down
This sounds excessive until the first time you cannot remember whether you counted a ground four years ago, and have to guess. A rules note is three lines long and settles every future argument with yourself:
- State what counts as a match for you (competitive only, or friendlies too).
- State how you treat rebuilds, moves and groundshares.
- State what you do with abandonments.
Then never change it retroactively. If you decide two years in that friendlies should count after all, apply the new rule going forward and flag the change — do not quietly re-audit the past to inflate the total. The number is only interesting because it is honest.
Frequently asked
Does a stadium tour count as a ground?
No, by near-universal convention. Groundhopping counts venues where you have watched a match, and a tour has no match, no crowd and no atmosphere. Almost all groundhoppers exclude tours from their totals.
Do friendlies count as a ground?
It depends on your rules. Strict groundhoppers count only competitive fixtures; most people count friendlies but mark them as such, so the list stays transparent about what kind of visit each entry was.
If a stadium is rebuilt, does it count as a new ground?
Usually not, if the pitch stayed in the same place. A common test is whether the playing surface moved: same site and same pitch position is treated as the same ground however much was rebuilt around it, while a move to a new site is a new ground.
If a stadium changes its name, is it a new ground?
No. Naming rights change frequently and do not change the venue. Counting a renamed stadium twice is not considered defensible by any common convention.
Does an abandoned match count?
A match called off before kick-off does not count, because no football was played. A match abandoned after kick-off usually counts if meaningful football took place first, though this is one of the genuinely contested edge cases.
Do two clubs sharing one stadium count as two grounds?
No. You are counting grounds, not clubs, so a shared stadium is one ground no matter how many different clubs you watch there.
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